Below are the relevant simple route maps to the Bakti Siti Hasmah Building as an easy reference for those interested to participate this event on this coming Sun (4th Jan 2009).
Please click the above map to enlarge it for better view
Monday, December 29, 2008
On The Mat and Beyond A Healing Practice (2)
Just visited "On The Mat and Beyond" blog and found their schedule is very interesting. Hope they will have a great success in organising this special and meaningful event in the beginning of New Year 2009. They seem still need some vehicles, small lorries or vans for transportation from Rawang to Bakti Siti Hasmah building on the event day. Appreciate if anyone could help can contact them (Roslin Mohd Daud @ 012-3981229 / jeeszer@yahoo.com or Indra Widjanarko @ 016-3614888 / indra.widjanarko@gmail.com.
Below are the relevant simple route maps to the Bakti Siti Hasmah Building as an easy reference for those interested to participate this event on this coming Sun (4th Jan 2009).
Below are the relevant simple route maps to the Bakti Siti Hasmah Building as an easy reference for those interested to participate this event on this coming Sun (4th Jan 2009).
Tuesday, December 16, 2008
On The Mat and Beyond A Healing Practice (1)
Lately, there are too many unhappy incidents happened in Malaysia Yoga World. At first, YogaZone (“YZ”) crisis started in Jun/Jul, followed by its Receivership in Aug and declared closure in Sep. Everything just happened too fast within a quarter (Q3 2008).
Now, it happened to yogaloft which should be a luxury yoga center with high end facilities has postponed their official opening due to internal problem and announced temporary closed for renovation. Luckily, they were willing to make a full cash refund to all the affected members with little compensation. So that the members’ hard earn money won’t get burnt again. No matter what is their internal business issue, the most important is none of the yoga friends / consumers being hurt.
There are too many negative chi lately and caused some very upset and disappointed. So, let start some POSITIVE chi now to light up everyone’s new hope. As usual, our nice bloggers here always send me useful information and the event that near to date is “On the Mat and Beyond - A Healing Practice”. This event is about a group of yoga teachers, practitioners, supporters and friends who got together and decided to organize a day of free yoga classes to a special group of people namely:
- the seniors - aged 50 years and above and beginners / first timers to yoga
- the blind and the hearing and speech impaired
- the critically and terminally ill
- stroke patients the physically disabled
- the overweight - BMI of 25 and above
- families and couples/partners
Their objective of this event is “to share their knowledge and skills with the participants so they could take the practice home with them. Through this event they hope to extend love and compassion transcending race and religion, tighten family ties and encourage healthy living.” Sounds great, right?
Due to this is a Charity event, they need some helps from the public for the items below for the event and also the volunteers (teachers and practitioners) on the event day on 4th Jan 2009.
- Yoga mats*
- Yoga blocks*
- Yoga belts*
- Steel chairs*
- Wheelchairs*
- Blankets*
- Bolsters*
- Bottled water
- Food items
- Teachers for advice and consultation on the sequence for the special groups and to lead and assist with the classes
- Sign language translators
- Volunteers on the event day
- Any other contribution i.e. publicity and word of mouth
* These items can be on loan or sponsorship/donation, new or used ones. The sponsored/donated items will be sold to the participants at the end of the event and the collection forwarded to the needy.
Below are the date, time, venue and contact persons and you may surf their website/blog for further details.
Date: 4 January 2009 (Sunday)
Time: 9.00am - 5.00pm
Venue: Main Hall, Ground Floor, Block B, Bakti Siti Hasmah Building, No. 6 Cangkat Abang Haji Openg, Taman Tun Dr Ismail, 60000 Kuala Lumpur
Website: http://onthematandbeyond.blogspot.com
Contact Persons: Roslin Mohd Daud +6 012 398 1229 (jeeszer@yahoo.com) OR Indra Widjanarko @ +6 016 361 4888 (indra.widjanarko@gmail.com)
Let start a good cause for year 2009 and have a brighter future in Yoga World Malaysia. CHEERS ^_^
Friday, December 12, 2008
Tribunal for Consumer Claims - YogaZone Case
Please click the above image to enlarge it for better viewing or easy readingThere are so many kind bloggers here always help me in updating this blog with latest news and events. Their efforts and contribution make this blog more informative. Really appreciate their kindness and helpfulness all the time. THANK YOU.
One of the regular bloggers updated that the Sinchew Daily dated 11th Dec (yesterday) published a small column about the winning case of the Tribunal claim of YogaZone's incident. Another one of them has sent me the above scanned news as I couldn't find it online.
I'm not so good in Chinese and hope my translation below is right, otherwise please send in your comment and correction.
It stated that a well known yoga center was closed in Sep 2008 and a number of the affected members have filed in their calims in the Tribunal lately to claim the refund of their paid membership fees from the owner of this yoga center. Majority of the cases received by Tribunal for Consmer Claimsin Kuala Lumpur this week are this Yoga Center case.
Claimants:
- Accountant (37 year-old)
Staying at Sri Petaling and she has signed up a life package on 26th Apr at RM3,500.
- Bank Staff (30 year-old)
Also staying at sri Petaling and she has signed up on 1st Jun. prepaid RM2,500.
- Planner (25 year-old)
Signed up at Kepong branch on 20th Jun at the fee of RM1,116. The package is for one year and free another 6 months.
- Engineer
This engineer signed up on 1st Oct this year and later found that the yoga center was already closed. As such, he appeal a refund of RM1,116.
(Comment: I thought by mid of Sep, a number of victims already started to file their claims to the Tribunal and the Receiver declared closure with the notice in YogaZone’s website on 25 Sep 2008. By 1st Oct, the affected outlet space in Plaza Damas and Kepong were taken over by Urban Yoga. So, wonder which outlet this engineer had signed up the package on 1st Oct…?)
- Business Woman
This business lady has signed up a “Golden Circle” package and paid RM5,888. She claimed that the yoga center was closed and unable to deliver services, as such appeal for full refund.
The defendant was absent and the above five claimants won the case with total amount of RM14,120.
The whole article never mentioned about the name of YogaZone, but we all aware that the only well known yoga center in Malaysia declared closure in Sep 2008 is YogaZone.
My concern here is although these five claimants have won the case but will they successfully get back their refund as the defendant was not even to take his responsibility to attend the court for hearing and YogaZone has already been declared closure. So, how are they going to get the refund? Would appreciate if any victim of YogaZone has successfully claimed their hard earn money could share with us here as there are still many victims out there looking for justice... THANKS!
Tuesday, December 9, 2008
Stop The War in Yoga World
I’m extremely tired and my eyes sore these few days. Seems like no time to have a good rest over the long weekend as busy monitoring and filtering this blog. What happened? Instead of having a long holidays break, I took my 3 days off at home to read all the published and unpublished (filtered and censored) comments and a number of emails from the bloggers (yoga teachers, yoga practitioners from KL and Malacca and other yoga centers) and other blog’s owner as well. I spent time to read every comment and email carefully and replied accordingly. Never being that busy and hard working on all these non-work related and non-profitable activities, just because of interest and “I love yoga”.
I might not right all the time (otherwise I won’t be conned by YZ as well), but I think I’m at the position that need to say something after receiving so many emails and comments (both published and unpublished due to unethical) from different groups of people.
- I found that some people kept on trying to misuse other people’s name or identity to post all the nonsense and garbage here. It was not co-incident that different person having with the same name or the actual person written the comment. They misused the ex-YogaZone teachers’ names to start the war. Ken Lim (ex-YZ’s chief pilates), Ethan (pilates teacher), Ethan’s wife / Siew Ming, Serena (ex-YZ yoga teacher), Leric (ex-YZ yoga teacher) and Mr. Jason from yogaloft names have been misused. All the posts by these culprits been censored.
- The same comments kept on being posted repeatedly by different names. The culprits kept on trying to post the same comment with different identities due to I have filtered and censored some of the unethical comments.
Some talking bad about yogalofts on how the tricks similar like YogaZone but also few came out and told that someone trying to take advantage by jeopardizing yogaloft. Who’s right and who’s wrong? Anyway, below is my personal view towards this yogaloft’s incident and in fact I have posted the same in replying one of Zen’s comment.
- etsu wellness is being responsible on whatever their internal problems that caused the delay in opening and need to closed in Dec for renovation. They reacted fast and got the matter solved within a week. All the members are allowed to opt for full refund in cash. Although this full refund couldn’t reimburse the members’ intangible loss such as mentally stress, at least they didn’t con members’ monies and made the members relief from further worries. Unlike YZ, never got the problems solved in months while members trusted YZ & TJ so much and were patiently waiting for it… (Doubt: etsu wellnes is not that irresponsible…)
- As per Zen’s comment, the company paid the salaries to everyone except 2 teachers. (Doubt: If the company refused to pay and playing trick, they should hold all the employees’ salaries like YZ…)
- I’m not here to query or doubt on Zen’s comment neither siding etsu wellness/yogaloft. But noticed that too many conflicts on all the comments and emails and each party told different story - “公说公有理，婆说婆有理” (not good in Chinese and hope don’t quote wrongly).
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To all my dear yogalover friends,
We don’t really know what was actually has been happened in between both parties. So, as a third party, I think we are not in the good position to comment or just to side either party (to be fair). Let time to prove everything and the justice will tell one day.
Since all the members have got back the cash refund and a little compensation (yoga mat @ RM1 and a free serum), you would not lose anything if yogaloft really can’t open their studio. Although your intangible loss such as mentally stress over the week and your time could not be compensated, they never con your money. If you are the ex-YZ members, you should remember how bad the incidents was compared to this and none of us got back a single cent of refund after suffering for months (in term of mentally stress, time consuming and monies – traveling here and there for checking and some even paid up additional RM99 hoping there would have a change). I’m sorry that not intentionally to remind about this sad experience but just would like all to be positive looking at this incident which considered much lucky where all the refund are in cash within a week.
If yogaloft can be opened as told by their management, then just you further judge and decide whether to join or not. It is your decision.
If we really start the war here, it will only make the yoga in Malaysia looks ugly and create a bad cause or karma in influencing some practitioners losing their confidence in yoga. Then, the yoga war creator would be the winner that achieved their goal in screwing up the peace of yoga world here.
We just want yoga and hope no further complication in yoga. So, please again look forwards and let hands in hands to rebuild the confidence and the yoga world in Malaysia. The little good effort from every yoga practitioner (teachers and students) will contribute towards this goal which I believe all of us wish to have it achieved.
I will continue posting other yoga centers information here (in fact found another yoga center in Puchong and PJ) and will try to get more yoga relevant articles or topics to discuss. Let start a POSITIVE force from now onwards. CHEERS ^_^
I might not right all the time (otherwise I won’t be conned by YZ as well), but I think I’m at the position that need to say something after receiving so many emails and comments (both published and unpublished due to unethical) from different groups of people.
- I found that some people kept on trying to misuse other people’s name or identity to post all the nonsense and garbage here. It was not co-incident that different person having with the same name or the actual person written the comment. They misused the ex-YogaZone teachers’ names to start the war. Ken Lim (ex-YZ’s chief pilates), Ethan (pilates teacher), Ethan’s wife / Siew Ming, Serena (ex-YZ yoga teacher), Leric (ex-YZ yoga teacher) and Mr. Jason from yogaloft names have been misused. All the posts by these culprits been censored.
- The same comments kept on being posted repeatedly by different names. The culprits kept on trying to post the same comment with different identities due to I have filtered and censored some of the unethical comments.
Some talking bad about yogalofts on how the tricks similar like YogaZone but also few came out and told that someone trying to take advantage by jeopardizing yogaloft. Who’s right and who’s wrong? Anyway, below is my personal view towards this yogaloft’s incident and in fact I have posted the same in replying one of Zen’s comment.
- etsu wellness is being responsible on whatever their internal problems that caused the delay in opening and need to closed in Dec for renovation. They reacted fast and got the matter solved within a week. All the members are allowed to opt for full refund in cash. Although this full refund couldn’t reimburse the members’ intangible loss such as mentally stress, at least they didn’t con members’ monies and made the members relief from further worries. Unlike YZ, never got the problems solved in months while members trusted YZ & TJ so much and were patiently waiting for it… (Doubt: etsu wellnes is not that irresponsible…)
- As per Zen’s comment, the company paid the salaries to everyone except 2 teachers. (Doubt: If the company refused to pay and playing trick, they should hold all the employees’ salaries like YZ…)
- I’m not here to query or doubt on Zen’s comment neither siding etsu wellness/yogaloft. But noticed that too many conflicts on all the comments and emails and each party told different story - “公说公有理，婆说婆有理” (not good in Chinese and hope don’t quote wrongly).
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To all my dear yogalover friends,
We don’t really know what was actually has been happened in between both parties. So, as a third party, I think we are not in the good position to comment or just to side either party (to be fair). Let time to prove everything and the justice will tell one day.
Since all the members have got back the cash refund and a little compensation (yoga mat @ RM1 and a free serum), you would not lose anything if yogaloft really can’t open their studio. Although your intangible loss such as mentally stress over the week and your time could not be compensated, they never con your money. If you are the ex-YZ members, you should remember how bad the incidents was compared to this and none of us got back a single cent of refund after suffering for months (in term of mentally stress, time consuming and monies – traveling here and there for checking and some even paid up additional RM99 hoping there would have a change). I’m sorry that not intentionally to remind about this sad experience but just would like all to be positive looking at this incident which considered much lucky where all the refund are in cash within a week.
If yogaloft can be opened as told by their management, then just you further judge and decide whether to join or not. It is your decision.
If we really start the war here, it will only make the yoga in Malaysia looks ugly and create a bad cause or karma in influencing some practitioners losing their confidence in yoga. Then, the yoga war creator would be the winner that achieved their goal in screwing up the peace of yoga world here.
We just want yoga and hope no further complication in yoga. So, please again look forwards and let hands in hands to rebuild the confidence and the yoga world in Malaysia. The little good effort from every yoga practitioner (teachers and students) will contribute towards this goal which I believe all of us wish to have it achieved.
I will continue posting other yoga centers information here (in fact found another yoga center in Puchong and PJ) and will try to get more yoga relevant articles or topics to discuss. Let start a POSITIVE force from now onwards. CHEERS ^_^
Thursday, December 4, 2008
yogaloft (5) - Refund is Allowed
Dear yogaloft members,
Just received a call from Ms Ellen (in fact she is the PR & Marketing of etsu wellness for beauty product and help in yogaloft setup). She clarified that:
- They have appointed a consultant team for the yogaloft setup project. This consultant team in charged in the design, construction, renovation and webpage design. But there is something happened between etsu well and this consultant team and they have to close the outlet temporary and also the webpage shown blank and they couldn't do anything as this webpage is registered under this consultant and controlled by them.
- Only one of the staff was terminated due to mis-conducted while other teachers and ambassadors were resigned by temselves. All the cheques are cashable and not bounced (I think only the cheque receivers know about this...)
- They are busy calling all the affected members to offer either refund or leave the deposit with them till the yogaloft opening but will offer them a compensation package if choosing this option.
- Initially refund is in term of checque but due to some negative comments in my blog and members' worries, they agree to refund by cash as well now.
- etsu wellness is taking legal action against the consultant team and will engage another new team to continue the setup. But due to the festive season now, believe everyting will be delayed as most of the contractors are busy.
I did ask her to claify this in my blog here to give an assurance and comfort the affected members but she said they don't want to make this issue more complicated. They have called the affected members and ready to refund. Action will be taken.
I found a lot of negative comments and some people trying to put on fire here. I'm not siding yogaloft (otherwise I won't post this issue here and glad that they are willing to refund) but just only concern all my yoga friends' benefits. So, I would say those affected yoga friend better take an immediate action to contact Ms Carine from etsu wellness @ 03-7880 2210 to arrnge for a cash refund since they willing to do so at the moment. If whatever etsu wellness claim is true and you still interested to join them, you can pay them again upon their official opening (when you can see something solid from them).
I would apprerciate those affected members do update us here that whether it is true you manage to get a full refund as Ms Ellen assured me they are doing so but some people keep on saying the members are conned without any refund from etsu wellness. I just hope fairness and truth. Otherwise, those simply accused are te one causing the worries to the affected members.
This is the best we can do at the moment.
p/s: please do offer your helping hands instead of putting on anymore fire to the affected members as we should sympathise to them being caught in this situation again. Hope they can really get a full refund on their hard earn money.
Just received a call from Ms Ellen (in fact she is the PR & Marketing of etsu wellness for beauty product and help in yogaloft setup). She clarified that:
- They have appointed a consultant team for the yogaloft setup project. This consultant team in charged in the design, construction, renovation and webpage design. But there is something happened between etsu well and this consultant team and they have to close the outlet temporary and also the webpage shown blank and they couldn't do anything as this webpage is registered under this consultant and controlled by them.
- Only one of the staff was terminated due to mis-conducted while other teachers and ambassadors were resigned by temselves. All the cheques are cashable and not bounced (I think only the cheque receivers know about this...)
- They are busy calling all the affected members to offer either refund or leave the deposit with them till the yogaloft opening but will offer them a compensation package if choosing this option.
- Initially refund is in term of checque but due to some negative comments in my blog and members' worries, they agree to refund by cash as well now.
- etsu wellness is taking legal action against the consultant team and will engage another new team to continue the setup. But due to the festive season now, believe everyting will be delayed as most of the contractors are busy.
I did ask her to claify this in my blog here to give an assurance and comfort the affected members but she said they don't want to make this issue more complicated. They have called the affected members and ready to refund. Action will be taken.
I found a lot of negative comments and some people trying to put on fire here. I'm not siding yogaloft (otherwise I won't post this issue here and glad that they are willing to refund) but just only concern all my yoga friends' benefits. So, I would say those affected yoga friend better take an immediate action to contact Ms Carine from etsu wellness @ 03-7880 2210 to arrnge for a cash refund since they willing to do so at the moment. If whatever etsu wellness claim is true and you still interested to join them, you can pay them again upon their official opening (when you can see something solid from them).
I would apprerciate those affected members do update us here that whether it is true you manage to get a full refund as Ms Ellen assured me they are doing so but some people keep on saying the members are conned without any refund from etsu wellness. I just hope fairness and truth. Otherwise, those simply accused are te one causing the worries to the affected members.
This is the best we can do at the moment.
p/s: please do offer your helping hands instead of putting on anymore fire to the affected members as we should sympathise to them being caught in this situation again. Hope they can really get a full refund on their hard earn money.
yogaloft (4) - Closed in Dec for Renovation?
Got a big SHOCK this early morning when login to my blog read all the comments that yogaloft is wind up; closed in Dec for renovation; members tried calling yogaloft (03-7875 5848) for the past 2 days but no one picked up the calls; all the dedicated teachers such as Dawid, Zen, Sean and etc were terminated by the company without prior notice; the ambassadors' email accounts were removed and etc. Is it True?
My first reaction was have to call Ms Ellen from yogaloft for clarification. She was the one got my contact number from an ex-YZ teacher and contacted me for the first time on 5th Nov morning with a courtesy request to remove the press conference invitation from my blog due to some typo error [which I posted on 4th Nov 2008 with the title "yogaloft (1)"]. She also gave me another courtesy call on Monday morning (1st Dec) that requested not to publish the studio photos first as it is still under renovation (I did ask permission when taken the photos).
Anyway, have called her and been told that it is not true that to wind up yogaloft but it is closed for the month of Dec 2008 for full renovation. It will be reopened in Jan 2009 and all the members are already being notified via calls from yogaloft and none of the teachers is being terminated. But I was in doubt why the members were so anxious and worried with the above comments if they were already being notified. So, I asked for a contact number which allow members to call for further clarification. She is kind and helpful during the conversation and gave me the HQ number @ 03-7880 2210 [same number as given by an Anonymous posted in the post of "yogaloft (2)] and look for Ms Carine who is the HR Manager. I just wonder why to contact a HR Manager instead of a Sale or PR Manager... But, I didn't ask further as my mind was so busy thinking so much thing - what happen to the members that have signed up and paid such an expensive deposit. I don't hope this would be the second YZ case that Money is Conned in Yoga. It is not easy for those yoga practitioners that being conned one time and regain the confidence to join another yoga center just with one objective, i.e. continue yoga practice. PLEASE, PLEASE, don't hurt them for second time.
Thereafter, I login to my Gmail to check whether any update (as some of the bloggers are nice to update me via emails from time to time) about this issue before I could post it here. I got a second SHOCK.
One of the regular bloggers here (she is an ex-YZ member who has recently signed up and paid to yogaloft) sent me a long email telling about this issue. Just to summarise it, Zen (ex-YZ teacher who is working with yogaloft) called her late last night and told that she has just lodged a police report against yogaloft. She also told that TJ was one of the team helped in setting up the studios but was being kicked off now. The ex-YZ teachers (of course Zen and believed others could be Dawid, Sean and etc.) are siding TJ and already resigned and etc.
It was a long story like another drama after YogaZone. In fact, I don't intend to mention anything about TJ as every time his name appear here, for sure a war will start. Anyway, don't wish to reveal any of their politics there but only CONCERN about the members that have signed up and paid. It would be better to further clarify with them as members were told that they would enjoy unlimited free classes in Dec if they signed up. The package sound nice as "attend first and pay later". But, upfront members already paid a huge sum of deposit, 1 month downpayment and some administration fees. So, it would be better to have a clearer picture of this yoga center as they should take care of the signed up members' benefits.
Dear yogaloft members, please do update here if anyone of you manage to find out further reliable clarification from yogaloft as all the signed up members are worried. Hope everyone would be fine and appreciate if any of the yogaloft personnel or the teachers that beinng claimed that have been terminated by the company could post your comments here as clarification. THANK YOU!
May GOD bless everyone. Yogis just want yoga for health, so please don't fool us...
My first reaction was have to call Ms Ellen from yogaloft for clarification. She was the one got my contact number from an ex-YZ teacher and contacted me for the first time on 5th Nov morning with a courtesy request to remove the press conference invitation from my blog due to some typo error [which I posted on 4th Nov 2008 with the title "yogaloft (1)"]. She also gave me another courtesy call on Monday morning (1st Dec) that requested not to publish the studio photos first as it is still under renovation (I did ask permission when taken the photos).
Anyway, have called her and been told that it is not true that to wind up yogaloft but it is closed for the month of Dec 2008 for full renovation. It will be reopened in Jan 2009 and all the members are already being notified via calls from yogaloft and none of the teachers is being terminated. But I was in doubt why the members were so anxious and worried with the above comments if they were already being notified. So, I asked for a contact number which allow members to call for further clarification. She is kind and helpful during the conversation and gave me the HQ number @ 03-7880 2210 [same number as given by an Anonymous posted in the post of "yogaloft (2)] and look for Ms Carine who is the HR Manager. I just wonder why to contact a HR Manager instead of a Sale or PR Manager... But, I didn't ask further as my mind was so busy thinking so much thing - what happen to the members that have signed up and paid such an expensive deposit. I don't hope this would be the second YZ case that Money is Conned in Yoga. It is not easy for those yoga practitioners that being conned one time and regain the confidence to join another yoga center just with one objective, i.e. continue yoga practice. PLEASE, PLEASE, don't hurt them for second time.
Thereafter, I login to my Gmail to check whether any update (as some of the bloggers are nice to update me via emails from time to time) about this issue before I could post it here. I got a second SHOCK.
One of the regular bloggers here (she is an ex-YZ member who has recently signed up and paid to yogaloft) sent me a long email telling about this issue. Just to summarise it, Zen (ex-YZ teacher who is working with yogaloft) called her late last night and told that she has just lodged a police report against yogaloft. She also told that TJ was one of the team helped in setting up the studios but was being kicked off now. The ex-YZ teachers (of course Zen and believed others could be Dawid, Sean and etc.) are siding TJ and already resigned and etc.
It was a long story like another drama after YogaZone. In fact, I don't intend to mention anything about TJ as every time his name appear here, for sure a war will start. Anyway, don't wish to reveal any of their politics there but only CONCERN about the members that have signed up and paid. It would be better to further clarify with them as members were told that they would enjoy unlimited free classes in Dec if they signed up. The package sound nice as "attend first and pay later". But, upfront members already paid a huge sum of deposit, 1 month downpayment and some administration fees. So, it would be better to have a clearer picture of this yoga center as they should take care of the signed up members' benefits.
Dear yogaloft members, please do update here if anyone of you manage to find out further reliable clarification from yogaloft as all the signed up members are worried. Hope everyone would be fine and appreciate if any of the yogaloft personnel or the teachers that beinng claimed that have been terminated by the company could post your comments here as clarification. THANK YOU!
May GOD bless everyone. Yogis just want yoga for health, so please don't fool us...
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