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Tuesday, December 9, 2008

Stop The War in Yoga World

I’m extremely tired and my eyes sore these few days. Seems like no time to have a good rest over the long weekend as busy monitoring and filtering this blog. What happened? Instead of having a long holidays break, I took my 3 days off at home to read all the published and unpublished (filtered and censored) comments and a number of emails from the bloggers (yoga teachers, yoga practitioners from KL and Malacca and other yoga centers) and other blog’s owner as well. I spent time to read every comment and email carefully and replied accordingly. Never being that busy and hard working on all these non-work related and non-profitable activities, just because of interest and “I love yoga”.

I might not right all the time (otherwise I won’t be conned by YZ as well), but I think I’m at the position that need to say something after receiving so many emails and comments (both published and unpublished due to unethical) from different groups of people.

- I found that some people kept on trying to misuse other people’s name or identity to post all the nonsense and garbage here. It was not co-incident that different person having with the same name or the actual person written the comment. They misused the ex-YogaZone teachers’ names to start the war. Ken Lim (ex-YZ’s chief pilates), Ethan (pilates teacher), Ethan’s wife / Siew Ming, Serena (ex-YZ yoga teacher), Leric (ex-YZ yoga teacher) and Mr. Jason from yogaloft names have been misused. All the posts by these culprits been censored.


- The same comments kept on being posted repeatedly by different names. The culprits kept on trying to post the same comment with different identities due to I have filtered and censored some of the unethical comments.

Some talking bad about yogalofts on how the tricks similar like YogaZone but also few came out and told that someone trying to take advantage by jeopardizing yogaloft. Who’s right and who’s wrong? Anyway, below is my personal view towards this yogaloft’s incident and in fact I have posted the same in replying one of Zen’s comment.

- etsu wellness is being responsible on whatever their internal problems that caused the delay in opening and need to closed in Dec for renovation. They reacted fast and got the matter solved within a week. All the members are allowed to opt for full refund in cash. Although this full refund couldn’t reimburse the members’ intangible loss such as mentally stress, at least they didn’t con members’ monies and made the members relief from further worries. Unlike YZ, never got the problems solved in months while members trusted YZ & TJ so much and were patiently waiting for it… (Doubt: etsu wellnes is not that irresponsible…)


- As per Zen’s comment, the company paid the salaries to everyone except 2 teachers. (Doubt: If the company refused to pay and playing trick, they should hold all the employees’ salaries like YZ…)

- I’m not here to query or doubt on Zen’s comment neither siding etsu wellness/yogaloft. But noticed that too many conflicts on all the comments and emails and each party told different story - “公说公有理,婆说婆有理” (not good in Chinese and hope don’t quote wrongly).

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To all my dear yogalover friends,

We don’t really know what was actually has been happened in between both parties. So, as a third party, I think we are not in the good position to comment or just to side either party (to be fair). Let time to prove everything and the justice will tell one day.

Since all the members have got back the cash refund and a little compensation (yoga mat @ RM1 and a free serum), you would not lose anything if yogaloft really can’t open their studio. Although your intangible loss such as mentally stress over the week and your time could not be compensated, they never con your money. If you are the ex-YZ members, you should remember how bad the incidents was compared to this and none of us got back a single cent of refund after suffering for months (in term of mentally stress, time consuming and monies – traveling here and there for checking and some even paid up additional RM99 hoping there would have a change). I’m sorry that not intentionally to remind about this sad experience but just would like all to be positive looking at this incident which considered much lucky where all the refund are in cash within a week.

If yogaloft can be opened as told by their management, then just you further judge and decide whether to join or not. It is your decision.

If we really start the war here, it will only make the yoga in Malaysia looks ugly and create a bad cause or karma in influencing some practitioners losing their confidence in yoga. Then, the yoga war creator would be the winner that achieved their goal in screwing up the peace of yoga world here.

We just want yoga and hope no further complication in yoga. So, please again look forwards and let hands in hands to rebuild the confidence and the yoga world in Malaysia. The little good effort from every yoga practitioner (teachers and students) will contribute towards this goal which I believe all of us wish to have it achieved.

I will continue posting other yoga centers information here (in fact found another yoga center in Puchong and PJ) and will try to get more yoga relevant articles or topics to discuss. Let start a POSITIVE force from now onwards. CHEERS ^_^

16 comments:

yogababy said...

All very Well said!

GOOD JOB & keep UP YOUR YOGA SPIRIT as mine is always positive.

property inspector said...

yes, the beautiful mind yogalover,
you have all my respect and all my support. Great energy always starts from a great person. Love yoga and spread the love around, hatred is too taxing on the mind and body. Namaste.

Anonymous said...

Fairly informative blog. Comments should be restricted to the followings:-

a)Yoga outlets;
b)Latest information on YZ in terms of receivership status, the court case to set aside the receivership, potential refund via the tribunal court or others;
c)Unscrupulous set-ups or new outlets so as to minimise cheating;

As consumers we should be united and have a proper forum to get rid of unscrupulous businessmen so that we can enjoy our hard earned money. Being an informed consumer will make us smarter.

Anonymous said...

Yogalover, U're wise in justify it! Besides den Yoga,Yoga,Yoga.. other issue we hv no right to judge as we hv no idea how,where,why,who d roof cause of all this issue...
Im admire u n this is d success blog!! Thank u!

Karin said...

Hi Yogalover

I totally agree with you. Was very sad to hear about yogaloft case as it really gives a very bad image to yoga in Malaysia after what happened with YZ. I am sure all yoga teachers and practitioners only want a good and friendly environment for their yoga practice.

“The success of yoga does not lie in the ability to perform asana’s, but in how it positively changes the way we live our lives…” T.K.V. Desikachar

Anonymous said...

yes, our love towards yoga shall be non-perceptive, non-racism, non-discrminitive, non-competitive, non-biased, non-compromising.

just hope that any new entrepreneur plans to start yoga business ( should there be any still, as yoga industry in malaysia is notorious after all this incidents ), if you are not a yogi, at least make sure that you are praciticing yoga and doing more readings about yoga, understand what you do is always the first step to succeed!

Anonymous said...

I was get back the refund but i will still support yogaloft! Looking forward on Jan's opening!!

yamuna, yogini said...

Yoga starts the time we step out from the Studio, not the time we step in. To really practice what we have learn is to be in the 'situation' and see how we react.

Anonymous said...

I saw Sin Chew mentioned that there are 5 person entitle for refund from Tribunal court total RM104120...
Any1 here get refund from it?

Anonymous said...

hi SH,
may i know why you still support yogaloft?

Thanks...

Yoga Lover said...

Hi YogaBaby, Ramuna, Ex-YZ (Cheated), Wy, Karin (Yoga & Wellness), Urbanite, Yamuna.Yogini,

MANY THANKS for all your understanding, kind support & courages. You all are really my great motivator to convince me continue my work here... THANKS again. I really respect you all for your kindness and patience.

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Hi SH,

Glad to hear that you got back your refund.

Yup, you have the choice to re-join yogaloft and I believe you must have your reason on your decision and I wish you enjoy your new yoga life there and do share with us your new experience later. But, jsut remember to check with them to ensure your interest is being protected before you re-sign up the package. All the BEST and Happy Always.

CHEERS ^_^

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Hi Anonymous (11 Dec @ 12:04am),

Thanks for your update and I heard about it from a yoga friend. But couldn't find it from Sin Chew Online. Anyway, will try to look for it.

Btw, some one told me that there were another 2 ex-YZ members also won the case but wonder they managed to claim the refund as TJ seems missing in action...?

Hope these 5 ex-YZ members could update us if they successfully calimed the refund after winning the court case. All the BEST to them.

CHEERS ^_^

Anonymous said...

Hi Yogalover,

This case publish just in a tiny size of the newspaper. Published at the "Da Dou Hui" 2nd page.

The news mentioned that the reason of winning is due to the "person-in-charge" (maybe TJ) absent at d court so the judges decided to refund the amount to the 5 person.

i wishes that the 5 winning person could assist us in provide the information such as full procedue and document required in order to have the refund... for d victims like us =p

Btw...Congratulation to the 5 members!!!

Hi Anonymous (11 Dec @ 12:04am)

Anonymous said...

yogaloft case was published on today sin chew.

Anonymous said...

breaking news, please log in to http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/94072?tid=1, t.j. on sinchew news

Anonymous said...

everybody know who is the boss la... aiyo... really.. aih... this yogaloft boss ar... aih... cannot la... so hard la... this kind of attitude...

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